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Old May 06, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00   #1
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I have an irrational love for this skill.

Not sure if I'm crazy.
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Old May 06, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06   #2
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Yes, you are very crazy

But it's ok because rangers are some of the most laid back classes (at least in PvE) As one of my favorite GW comics said about rangers..." ESPLODIN ARROWS YEA!"

It's a good skill, and there WAS a build based around it, but I don't know where it went
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Old May 06, 2008, 09:30 PM // 21:30   #3
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I like it, it's got a couple benefits, it ignores armor, and when the target is below 50% health you can fire as fast as you can hit the button.

Combine it with the appropriate damage type, throw in a preparation, a nature ritual or two, a weapon spell, and "I am the strongest!" and you can get some insane damage with it.
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Old May 06, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32   #4
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It's bad, but I agree it's fun to toy with.
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Old May 06, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51   #5
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It's bad, but I agree it's fun to toy with.
Whatcha talkin' 'bout Willis?!?!

In PvE, the spammable armor-ignoring damage is pretty phenomenal once the monsters get up into ridiculous armor ranges. Combine with a vampiric bow and a good enchant/prep/weapon spell and you can get some respectable damage going.

In PvP, where no one has very heavy armor (except that fool in RA who thinks he's a stoneflesh tank), it's pretty lackluster.
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Old May 06, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52   #6
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When it beats Splinter Volley, let me know, kthx.
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Old May 06, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32   #7
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When it beats Splinter Volley, let me know, kthx.
Yeah I have an irrational dislike for Volley also, but I think I'm coming around on that one. Something about the slightly slower refire rate compared to barrage never sat right with me. It's been a long long time since I've used barrage now so I think I might be in the right mindset to give volley a fair chance.
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Old May 07, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16   #8
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Needling Shot is a good skill but it is definately far from being a skill to base a build around. The only build i use it on this one...

[skill]Marksman's Wager[/skill][skill]Penetrating Attack[/skill][skill]Sundering Attack[/skill][skill]Needling Shot[/skill][skill]"I Am The Strongest"[/skill]

Not an amazing build but then again its more a build i use when i want a change from the usual ones i run.
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Old May 07, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23   #9
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It's good for triggering daze, that's about it.
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Old May 07, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24   #10
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Yeah I have an irrational dislike for Volley also, but I think I'm coming around on that one. Something about the slightly slower refire rate compared to barrage never sat right with me. It's been a long long time since I've used barrage now so I think I might be in the right mindset to give volley a fair chance.
y not bring both [needling shot] + [volley]?
or is that too much pwnage in one build? @__@
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Old May 07, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44   #11
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y not bring both [needling shot] + [volley]?
or is that too much pwnage in one build? @__@
Put both of those skills in you're bar and GW will just crash it can't handle the awesome that such a build would create!
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Old May 07, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50   #12
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It's good for triggering daze, that's about it.
yes.. I do tend to run BHA in PvE so triggering daze is part of my love for needling shot. Triggering daze on monks or eles is some sweet action.
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Old May 07, 2008, 03:55 AM // 03:55   #13
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wouldn't Concussion Shot + Epidemic then Flail + Barrage Spam be better for interrupting groups of casters?
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Old May 07, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01   #14
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wouldn't Concussion Shot + Epidemic then Flail + Barrage Spam be better for interrupting groups of casters?
Ah concussion shot... Brings me back of a build I sort of made with archers signet, mantra of inscriptions, and concussion shot. Of course with the other 2 interupts.
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Old May 07, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09   #15
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wouldn't Concussion Shot + Epidemic then Flail + Barrage Spam be better for interrupting groups of casters?
Yes and no... Concussion shot is conditional on your target casting a spell and your interrupting them. By the time you interrupt your first target and then cast epidemic and start spamming barrage the rest of the group will have hit your party with their big spell.

Straight BHA + Epidemic might be better in this case because the daze is unconditional and spreads earlier. I guess this is where Volley would/should come in too.
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Old May 07, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01   #16
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wouldn't Concussion Shot + Epidemic then Flail + Barrage Spam be better for interrupting groups of casters?
[[Broad Head Arrow] + [[Epidemic] + [[Volley] will work in Hard mode, while [[Concussion Shot] is conditional on interrupting a spell. That's a rather hard feat in hard mode if they are not already dazed.

On topic, [[Needling Shot] is fun, but bow Rangers don't do single target DPS all that well.

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Old May 07, 2008, 06:03 AM // 06:03   #17
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Needling Shot requires to much of an investment (ie...preperations, conjure, enchants, orders, etc) before it's really even marginally useful. Even at the top of it's game, the damage is nothing to be proud of.
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Old May 07, 2008, 11:33 AM // 11:33   #18
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I used to have an infatuation with Needling aswell, good for taking down a nearly dead enemy whos fleeing. However, its best when combined with Glass Arrows or a conjure, as snipious says.
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Old May 07, 2008, 02:15 PM // 14:15   #19
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I've never been a fan of a skill you need an entire bar of other skills just to make it good. Needle shot + Prep+ weapon spell+ enchant+ vamp bow+ IAS + Other team mates to get the enemy down to under 50% health and then stop the healer so you have time to spam your -50 dmg to kill the enemy befor he gets a tad of healing to get back over the 50% mark and eliminate your build.

yeah, good skill.


Yeah it's good for the interupt on Daze, but again IF you have a team to get the dazed foe under 50% health.

No thanks, I'll just take my pet in it's place.
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Old May 07, 2008, 04:02 PM // 16:02   #20
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i use needling shot in quite a few builds , and i really like it ..

[build=OgMTcTsmXiC0VS4w3A1oCsVSmAA] .. that's the build i used to use , needling went really nicely in it
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